Showing posts with label usenet. Show all posts
Showing posts with label usenet. Show all posts

Saturday, May 09, 2009

The Decline and Fall of SHWI


Spike in the middle was a spammer that went wild. He was contained and sent packing. However the rest should be apparent. I was off in the prediction as to when the spam would overwhelm it: there is a small, small group of hardcore posters that are hanging on. Half of this month's posts (not included in the above since is not a complete month) are from ten posters. That includes out of the spam and obvious troll posts too. Oops. That includes the Bguther. N/M. One of the top trollers is one of the top posters.

They may hold on for another year, a small refugium of close knit posters, but I'd not bet on it. The decline gets worse with every year and certain seasons seem to sap more and the posting levels don't really recover. At some point, a threshold will be crossed and SHWI will be completely lost to spam.

Ah well. Nothing lasts forever.

Friday, July 27, 2007

Skull Sweating the Successor to Usenet

I have been a long standing usenet user. My first post was back in 1993. I find that I really like the medium. People can communicate in a manner that fits an extended conversation, yet still can offer a better thought out response. It's almost, when done well, a blend of letters and essays with a sense of community tossed in. This seems to be especially true for the newsgroup soc.history.what-if: see sidebar. We have some very high and rigorous standards there that have stood the test of time. Well, at least the last 6 years or so, which is a pretty long time for anything online. Not all is shiny and bright though.

The only problem is that Usenet is dying. The readership and participant count is an ebbing tide. It's not a style that appeals to people in this day and age of YouTube, podcasts, The Web, and bitttorrent. Even blogs might be hurting in another few years. However, for Usenet, the style of discourse and quality of discussion from the better newsgroups will simply go extinct, I think. The vast majority of them are empty or full of spam, already left high and dry as the waters of human attention have withdrawn. There are a few refugia, but not that many and even those are in decline.

SHWI for example has had 2212 posts so far this month. An estimated 300 of those are spam (10%, which is very bad compared to olden times). There were a small host of threads this month about whether we should have an exodus of posters away from the less desirable types which seem to be overly prolific and, frankly, very obnoxious even to those that are polite to them. Those threads, which induced a plethora of rants by the usual suspects[1], generated something on the order of 200 posts of their own. That leaves some 1800 posts that are 'good' posts. That means an average of 62 posts per day. Except that seven years ago, it was five times that. The decline can be seen here.

The question of what is to succeed it has come up. I've been putting in some serious 'skull sweat' about what to do. Carlos outed that fact. I have a plethora of notes on what I want from the high. Now I've started scribbling down the mechanics. I think I am going to do a number of prototypes first. This weekend, I am planning on standing up an old machine as a server for the project. The first lines of code will probably be written tonight for the first prototype.

I need to read a lot more details about the new models of communication that are out there. I am setting an informal goal of the first alpha for a year from now. We shall see.

1. As an aside, Google Groups has even produced a bit of character assassinations through an add on feature that most Usenet users can't see: Google Groups supports a rating feature for each post and this in turn allows some people who use this system to run around and mark people they don't like down as poor posts. It's not unlike slashdot's moderation system, yet isn't available to most posters to even know its there. Since Google Groups is likely to be the end resting place for the ultimate end-times Usenet archive, some people have been smeared without knowledge or way of correction after the groups are archived permanently.

Monday, May 28, 2007

Love the Sig-Quote

'The story of the rest of the 15th century, theologically speaking, is the story of the Church clapping its hands together and saying, "Sorted!"'
- Doug Muir


I REALLY love that one. It's almost as good as James' famous one. However, James' is of more interest to nonhistorians, I have to admit, than Doug's.

Thursday, May 24, 2007

If you really want to look!

My current profile of my usenet activity is up there. Enough of you have already looked at my post I linked to down below, so if you're going to look, by all means take a gander at the whole kit and kaboodle.

My previous profile is here. There's more in the archives, but you ought to be smart enough to ge them yourselves.

Sheesh.

Wednesday, March 14, 2007

More Things

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
--From Hamlet

There a poster in that alternate evolution mailing list that I really think I need to stop replying to. When that individual has posted to SHWI, others have warned me that his opinions are unswayable and interaction is most likely pointless. This is a case of me making a public acknowledgement of 'damnit, ok, you guys are more than right'. mea culpa.


Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Your Attention Please

Those of you that read this blog are a mixed bag of a group. Some of you are one time readers. Some of you are old friends. Some of you are Deep Time living fossils of my past. Others of you are online acquaitences. I'd like to direct all of you to take a moment to puruse the usenet groups of alt.history.future, soc.history.what-if, and rec.arts.sf.science. They are about discussions of the future, what-if scenarios of the historical past, and the science of science fiction scenarios. There are truly some incredibly friendly and knowledgable people there.

The problem is that they are in decline as people that used to post are getting busy with the rest of life (guilty!) or at the other end, there has been a massive decline of new blood. Usenet in general is in decline as a medium. The 'replacement' has been the blogosphere. However the blogs are a soapbox medium - the bullypulpit - instead of a good discussion forum, the Friday Night Fight, so to speak for you LCens.

So, go ahead, read a bit and post something. Make it interesting and don't pick something inane: what-if the Germans won WW2 or could the deathstar beat the enterrpise, or will America become an islamic state. Put a little thought into it and you will get some very good and informed replies.